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Hypothetical Monthly Results

 JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec
2009                     (9.7%)+17.6%(7.1%)+17.6%+6.9%(23.4%)+148.8%(1.7%)+13.6%
2010(17%)(48.9%)                                                            

 
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Technical Analysis:  Moving Average daysX

Instruments Mostly Futures; (some stocks, forex, options)
Strategies Technical analysis, Volatility trading, Market timing
System started 4/19/2009 (10 months ago)
System developer 1372719 Ontario, Inc. Contact
(Last login to C2: 2/8/10 19:10)

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Recently Closed Trades

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System creator requested that closed trades data below be delayed by seven days.

Opened ET B/S # Symbol   Price Closed Price Risk P/L
1/25/10 19:52 SELL 5 @WH0 498 1/4 2/1 20:47 476 Low $5,562
1/21/10 20:24 SELL 2 @TFSH0 620.90 2/1 20:46 606.60 Low $2,860
1/26/10 19:40 SELL 3 QSIH0 16.85 2/1 20:46 16.65 Low $3,000
1/26/10 19:40 SELL 34 QPLJ0 1526.70 2/1 20:45 1552.50 Normal ($43,860)
1/25/10 19:36 SELL 8 @OH0 233 2/1 20:44 228 Low $2,000
1/22/10 5:47 SELL 2 @NKDH0 10590 2/1 20:44 10340 Low $2,500
1/25/10 19:33 SELL 2 @QGH0 5.66 2/1 20:43 5.45 Low $1,025
1/26/10 19:37 BUY 13 @JYH0 0.011156 2/1 20:40 0.011007 Normal ($24,212)
1/26/10 19:36 SELL 3 QHGH0 333.90 2/1 20:40 307.50 Low $19,800
1/27/10 20:12 SELL 1 QGCG0 1087.40 2/1 20:39 1102.80 Low ($1,540)
1/20/10 9:37 SELL 1 @EMDH0 743.70 2/1 20:36 711.50 Low $3,220
1/26/10 19:32 SELL 34 @EUH0 1.4072 2/1 20:35 1.3914 Low $67,150
1/22/10 9:01 SELL 3 @CDH0 0.9460 2/1 20:35 0.9421 Low $1,170
1/26/10 19:30 SELL 5 @CH0 361 3/4 2/1 20:34 359 3/4 Low $500
1/28/10 21:47 SELL 13 @BPH0 1.6130 2/1 20:34 1.5955 Low $14,218

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Statistics

Analytics  
Trades6,267
# Profitable2,512 (40.1%)
# months tracked10
Profitable months5 (50.0%)
Avg trade duration3.6 days
Annual return (compounded)13.4%
Average win$2,321
Average loss$1,539
Profit factor1.0:1
Max peak-to-valley drawdown (historical)68.26%
drawdown periodDec 01, 2009 to Feb 04, 2010
Correlation w/ S&P0.142
Sharpe ratio0.075
C2Realism Factor 74%
Keep after worst-case slippage 82.3%
Probabilities of future account loss  
Chance of 10% account loss95.1%
Chance of 20% account loss81.0%
Chance of 30% account loss76.7%
Chance of 50% account loss0.5%
Chance of 100% account loss0.0%
Average Profit to Drawdown (APD)-0.01
Average P/L per unit traded$20.79
Sum of dividends and cash expir. in model account$261


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System Description

Objective method of issue selection: be greedy/fearful when others are fearful/greedy & vice-versa (reason); Pre-dominantly (greater than 95%) Always in the Market (true independence); Realism Factor (honesty) greater than or = 50%; 30,60,90 day return greater than 0; Open P/L greater than or = 0 (reliability or justice); Annualized Return, CAGR greater than or = 100% (productiveness); Sharpe Ratio: (integrity); Calmar Ratio (pride) greater than or = 2.0; Profit Factor (W:L ratio) greater than 1 (self-esteem) - highly co-related with Expectancy.

Principles are a form of conceptualization. Pitting principles against life is equivalent to pitting theory against practice. In both formulations, one is pitting concepts against life and practice, which means: one is accepting a breach between concepts and reality. This in turn presupposes a certain view of concepts.

I filter systems using Predominantly Always in the Market; Realism Factor; Annualized Return, CAGR; 30, 60, 90 day Return; Open P/L; Calmar Ratio, Profit Factor, # of Trades greater than or = 30, Age greater than or = 210 (30 weeks) and rank the resulting results by the Expectancy Score and the break a tie (less than 1% difference in Expectancy Score) if any, by the Sharpe Ratio. Use C2 methods only for direction and timing of the market, not for managing your money. You should manage your own money, or the market will manage it for you! else invest in a Mutual/Hedge fund managed by a Professional Risk Manager. Grandma: please stay away.

Productivity (returns) is not only a central element of a good methods life; it is the good methods central purpose. But it is logically interconnected, both in theory and in practice to other virtues (independence, honesty, reliability, integrity and pride) as these are all expressions of rationality, the primary virtue. None can be validated in isolation, apart from others; nor can a man practice any of them consistently while defaulting on the others. Individuals who trade their own creations are not parasites. The dependents among men in this issue are the non-creators. Some turn criminal and seize the unearned; these are the looters. Others peddle various forms of mysticism (e.g., astrology). Others - by far the largest subcategory - are the second-handers, who hold a legitimate job but drift through it out of focus, exercising no judgment, reaching no conclusions, merely imitating the motions of those around them.

The expertise of theRootofAllGoodisMoney.com principal establishes the foundation for an analytical discipline employing a macro, top-down, bottom-up perspective in a framework tailored to the asset allocation challenges facing investment professionals, professional & proprietary traders, brokers, accredited investors, hedge fund & asset managers whose main purpose is to maximize the returns. We are uniquely positioned to provide high value-added in the quest for superior returns with an approach geared to the investors need to choose from among competing asset classes on a low relative risk/high reward (prudent) basis taking into account the difficulty of picking winners, commission, slippage costs and tax consequences.

Please ignore the APD figures reported by C2 as these are stolen concepts and is also fraught with bad quote errors, rife with calculation errors, fallacies and prejudices, to base any concepts on it.

Our Model Positions are representative positions that put our best economic forecasts to work. These are not recommendations to buy or sell specific instruments, nor are they personalized investment advice.

Model Positions are created at a size representing a typical portfolio% risked adjusted by the dollar volatility of the instrument traded, assuming that the system has a positive Expectancy ((AW X PW - AL X PL) / AL) where AW=average win, PW=probability of win, AL=average loss, PL=probability of loss) & a Profit Factor (W:L ratio) greater than 1.0. Larger versions of similar positions may involve market impact costs or other costs that we do not take into account. Min. account size recommended: $10K - mini-fx, $100K - ETFs, Futures, $1M - Stocks, $10M - Bonds, $100M - T-Bills, $1B - fx.

The risk of a trade is defined as the dollar amount that the trade would lose per contract if it were a loss. Commonly, the trade risk is taken as the size of the money management stop applied, if any, to each trade. Reducing your positions is the same as raising your stop loss. If your system does not use protective (money management) stops, the risk can be taken as the largest historical loss. This is a modification of the approach Vince adopted in his book "Portfolio Management Formulas," John Wiley & Sons, New York, 1990. http://www.adaptrade.com/Articles/article-ffps.htm

In my mind, curve fitting means either using different systems for different markets, or using different parameters of the same system for different markets, & this is not valid technical analysis. Instead, one should trade the moves, rather than markets. Some traders hold on to a position, & keep changing their systems to fit it - other traders hold on to their systems & keep changing their portfolios to fit it. If a system works on Bonds & not on Beans, this system is curve fitted over a specific set of data (Bonds) & it loses all statistical validity. To believe it will work in the future as it has worked in the past is very dangerous. I therefore take exception to any system, that either only trades one specific market (stocks or fx) or group of markets (Energy or Grains), or trades different markets using different parameters or rules of the same system. All this proves is what has worked best in the past, & this will usually not continue to work in the future, as there is no correlation under this scenario as history wont ever repeat itself exactly.

Trader Mike says: "Expectancy, position-sizing & other aspects of money management are far more important than discovering the holy grail entry system or indicator(s)." http://tradermike.net/2004/05/trading_101_expectancy.html Alex Matulich says: "Expectancy score is a better, more objective measure than the Sharpe Ratio for evaluating the relative performance of different trading strategies." http://unicorn.us.com/trading/expectancy.html Harry M. Kat says "Overall portfolio volatility can be reduced further by combining both hedge funds & managed futures with stocks/bonds" http://www.capmgt.com/managed-futures-and-hedge-funds.html Dr. David Druz says, "The more robust a system, the more volatile it tends to be! This is because robust systems are not optimized to particular markets or market conditions. The converse is also true. You can design systems with excellent returns and low volatility on historical testing, but which work only for given periods in given markets. These systems tend to be curve-fit or market-fit & are not robust." This quote comes from: http://www.tacticalnet.com/cgi-bin/t2.exe/VolatiltiyPaper.htm

Day-trading systems specialize in one market, do very well for a while and then suddenly fall to pieces. Many day-trading systems are taking extremely large positions which, in the event of any large intra-day moves or breakdown in exchange trading functions or server outages or internet outages, hacking etc., which happen from time to time, expose the account to wipe-out, even negative equity. Please also note that as with many systems that go for medium terms moves(although not all trades do this), the combined equity plot favored at C2 sometimes provides a misleading, or we should say incomplete, picture. The most important negative points are those that involve actual (realized) account losses (drawdown), which are not the same as an open equity (unrealized) losses. There are going to be open losses. But in order to get the big moves, you have to be willing to give those profits a chance to run. Often it works, sometimes it doesn't. What is not shown on the C2 graph is the closed equity line. Usually, though not always, it shows a far smoother ride than looking at the open equity plot alone, which does tend to oscillate far more, & also with far larger moves than any day-trading system would permit. Also, options on fx & futures are not yet available at C2 and the leverage on fx (33:1) is way too low at C2, to serve as an effective hedge. http://www.dontloseyourass.com "All that glisters is not Gold" - Shakespeare

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System trades only at EOD (Ideal even for part-time traders). Read nothing; listen to no one except your new signals. Due to the risk of error, use caution (monitor) Auto-trading. Software which automates the order entry process is highly recommended. www.TheRootofAllGoodisMoney.com www.LoveWithGold.com

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Model Account Status

Started$500,000
Buy Power$118,842
Cash$824,812
Equity$50,149
Cumulative $*$56,179
Total System Equity$556,179
Margined$784,952
Open P/L$68,373
System vendor has delayed data by 7 days for non-subs.


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